Ball and Socket Vs annealed wire?

Ball and Socket Vs annealed wire?

Hi Guys,
Just thought i would get peoples opinions on this subject as i am creating a fair few puppets for an upcoming animation.
I have worked with wire armatures for most of my animation life, but was lucky enough to work on Frankenweenie and seeing the amazingly well made ball and socket armatures there has posed me with a dilemma.

Obviously ball and sockets are regarded as providing a more accurate and smoother motion and dont tend to break like wire after prolonged use but i am casting a puppet that is completley silicone and therefore i will not really be able to access the joints to tighten them if they become loose after use. (not without slicing the silicone and then seaming afterwards- seems detrimental) I was considering just going with a sturdy wire armature unless there would be a way to lock of the ball and sockets at the required tension indefinitley- i have some thread lock but have not tried. Any opinions or solutions welcome.

Many Thanks

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Re: Ball and Socket Vs annealed wire?

I've used ball & socket armatures but only in clay figures. I'm afraid to put a ball & socket armature inside of a foam latex or silicone puppet because the joints have come loose on me before and I've had to cut away clay to get access to the armature. The materials are expensive so unless I can someday afford to make duplicate ball & socket puppets I'll probably keep using wire for foam latex and silicone characters. Sure it can be tedious and a little tricky, but you can get the same results with a good wire armature that you can get with a ball & socket armature.

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Thanks Scottdaros, This echoes my thought process completley! It seems almost too risky to use ball and socket joints in case the tension decreases and thus renders the puppet unusable. I will probably opt for wire armatures as i have been doing. Whilst I'm on the subject it seems to me that twisting ali wire.... eg two strands that twist round each other, can cause problems due to the two strands touching each other and creating cuts, notches etc that then then leads to a more brittle joint that breaks easier. What I thinking of doing is using multiple strands of ali wire with some kind of coating to prevent contact of the bare wire, i saw some puppet armatures that were doing just this but using some kind of thread that completley encased the wire. It seems like a logical step to take but if anyone has any opinions then please let me know.
I will up some photos of what i am working on at some point so hopefully that will help illustrate pros/cons of different armature types

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