Animationsupplies.net standard Armature - here's the low down.

Animationsupplies.net standard Armature - here's the low down.

Ok I got one of these and it's built up and the epoxy's drying as I type, I haven't animated anything with it yet but I have had a little play. I've seen a lot of posts asking about them so I hope I can help somebody make the decision to buy one or not.

So here's my experience with it.
I payed my 80 quid on Tuesday and the package arrived the next day.
the box contained all of the bits as well as instructions for making the armature at about an 8 inch scale.
The joints are fairly thick, so if your character needs Jack Skellington-style skinny legs, it's not going to be possible. The character I'm making is just a fairly standard man, so that was ok.

Cutting the rods to size was a pain. I tried with my own regular tool shop hack saw and it was taking forever and pretty much ruining the thread. Luckily my Dad happens to be a Goldsmith jeweller, so he had way better equipment and managed to get them all cut for me in half an hour.
Putting the bits together was fairly simple and quick, it took about an hour, not including the time the thread lock took/is taking to set properly.
Wiring up the hands was a bit tricky, but eventually I got them done and shrink wrapped, I'll be building them up with liquid latex later.

All in all, it's turned out pretty good, it's way sturdier and smoother than my wire armatures and the helping hands one I made(never again!  tongue  ).
For a regular male puppet it works well, it doesn't suffer from double-joint-syndrome because it has special little bits you put in half of the joint that locks it, and the shoulders and toes are well catered for.

However, if I had actually bothered to look them up beforehand (because I assumed freelance-made armatures would be expensive) how reasonable Tom Brierton's armatures were, I'd have paid the extra £20 and gotten one of his, because I've heard nothing but great things about them. http://www.tombriertonarmatures.com/

Long story short; The one I got is really good and just fine for what I need it for. But Brierton's armatures look better and they're not all that much more expensive.

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OH MY GOD THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE!

i dont think i would spend 150 dollars on an armature... i'd rather build my own out of scratch from home depot.... all i'd really need are the plans on how to make them... becuase honestly my cammera is cheaper then some of those armatures lol.

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heh, that's actually very cheap, for a quality hand made armature.
Getting a custom armature made for you is waaaaay more expensive. Yes, if you have a small budget you can make wire ones and they're fine.
But this time I have 4 minutes of the best animation I possibly can do to do, and the puppet is being made in such a way that it'd be pretty much impossible to make duplicates(So wire isn't really a good choice)
I don't see the problem with spending money on an armature, hell, that's only half the cost of most video game consoles.
Good luck making an armature from Home Depot (is it a DIY chain store or something?). The reason armatures are expensive is because it takes even experienced professionals a long time to machine them, and those machines are expensive, too.

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I don't matter the price as long as it's going to help me in my career.
But still at the moment I'm not gonna get one.
First I would need some good plans of what I'm going to use it for.
And secondly, it probably wouldn't earn it's money back if I bought one now.
Maybe later on, if I'm more experienced, have alot more time for it, maybe then I'll purchase one.

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Well this project is kind of what's going to get me into a degree or not, pretty much. So it's worth spending the money.
Also it's a ton of fun just to play with and build the puppet onto tongue

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ah well for a career its understandable that you would have to have one but if your kinda lower end its just kinda unreaasonable.....


but if i had the right tools im sure i could make one.. or buy one of those wooden puppet things and shave it a bit so i could get my clay to stick to it... theyre only like 12 bucks so i'd just do that..... and take off the stand and stick some powerfull magnets to the feet maybe reinforce... because frankly i'm not so rich as to spend $150+ on several armatures....

but if its what you need yu gotta do what yu gotta do...

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Don't use wooden artist's dolls, they're a waste of time/12 bucks.
The ankles are too weak to support the rest of the model so it'll just flop over all the time. Just get some Aluminium armature wire (available in store now! big_smile ) and some epoxy putty, it works great. I've wasted huge amounts of money trying to find good substitutes, seriously. I'll be using wire for the trolls and the mountain king himself later on.

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lol i meant i could put wires on the anckles and glue some metal to the feet so that i could use magnets for it to stand....

but i suppose this could work too.. i went to 99 cents and bought like 3 packs of good 32 foot wire maybe i could try this wire armature thing... to the puppet making mobile =P

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make sure it's annealed aluminium armature wire, others will snap after just a few bends or maybe be too springy.  1/16" is generally best gage to use, double twisted in the arms and 3 strands in the legs and spine.

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ive messed with it a bunch its not too springy and it doesnt snap easily but the coating comes off after some time...... does that mean i need new wire... ive also heard you could use brass?

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